- How has Ponyboy changed since the beginning of the novel?
- How has Johnny changed?
- What new observations have you discoved about the other characters?
- What might S. E. Hinton say about the greasers and the bonds they have forged?
- How do experiences change people?
- Find examples of the dialog among different characters. What to the words reveal about them and how they might be changing?
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
Chapters 4 & 5 Fishbowl Reflection
Think about the April 29 fishbowl discussion about Chapters Four and Five of The Outsiders. Write a reflection of at least five different observations about the characters. Each observation should include explanation and elaboration. Within one of your observation, you must include a quote with in-text citation from the novel. Feel free to include any ideas that the inside circle may have missed. You might want to consider some of the following to help guide you:
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1) Ponyboy has matured since the beginning of the novel because he has experienced things he never would have imagined he would be experiencing. For example he witnessed a murder and once you see that you’re a different person. It’s hard to see dangerous things happen to other people.
2) I learned from the inner circle member discussions that Pony and Johnny chose Dally to help them run away because he has been in their position before. “The fight for self-preservation had hardened him beyond caring.” (pg. 59). He has a record so he’s dealt with the police and it would be him that would give them the best advice about the situation. Also he’s Johnny’s idol.
3) S.E Hinton would have said that the greasers bond for one another is very strong. Greasers seem to have a closer bond with one another then socs do because greasers don’t have it made like the socs do. They have to work for what they got so their closer with one another.
4) A new observation I have discovered about Johnny is toughness. I mean it must have taken a lot of guts to just kill a soc like that. After all I do think Bob and Randy jumping Johnny in the beginning of the novel had a lot to do with why he stabbed Bob.
5) From observing the inner circle I learned that Cherry Valance is spying on the socs for the greasers because she felt like it was her fault Bob and Randy were looking for a fight that night since she did kind of pick up Johnny and Pony. However when I was reading the novel I thought she was only spying on the socs for the greasers because she has a crush on Dally and she has a good friendship with Ponyboy.
1. Johnny killed a soc. - It all happened when Ponyboy got hit by Darry so he ran away and met up with Johnny back at the vacant lot. Then a blue Mustang came up and socs got out. They tried to drown Ponyboy but Johnny pulled out his switch blade and stabbed Cherry’s boy friend. Johnny killed him.
2. They had to find Dally because he would know what to do. They trusted Dally because he could get out of anything. (p.g. 58) and he would not tell and soul and keep his trap shut.(p.g. 81)
3. Dally gave them a gun and $50. He told them to go up to the top of Jay Mountain at the abandoned church. (p.g. 61).
4. After five days Dally came and meet up with them at the church. He gave Ponyboy a not from Soda that said Darry did not mean to hit him and they all miss him and wish that he would turn himself in.(p.g.81)
5. Cherry was there new spy- She felt like two-bit getting jumped and the whole killing thing was her fault so she wanted to help them. So she said that she would tell them when the socs were drunk and looking for a fight, also she would tell them if the socs were going to use weapons.
The Outsiders
Chapters 4 & 5
During the fish bowl session, about the readings in chapters four and five I sat on the outer circle, and observed things, and took notes about what the kids were talking about on the inner circle, and here is what I had observed.
a) As the kids were discussing about the book I heard a kid say….”There is a spy that turns out to be Sherri, because she is connected to the greasers”.
b) I also saw how the kids were answering each others questions and being very clear about things. Now when they would answer each others questions they would always refer back to the text (which was in the book).
c) In my opinion I would have to say that one of the topics the students had talked about the longest, and the most was how Bob got killed. It had also seemed liked they stayed on topic well because they seemed to have liked it.
d) As they were talking about how Bob got killed I was very interested because I have had similar moments that have happened either to my friends or to my family and a couple of them have been right in front of me just like it was right in front of Ponyboy.
e) Now over all I feel that everything was very good. The chapters were very interesting this time. And the book is really a great book!!!!!! :)
B.C
1) Ponyboy has changed a lot throughout the book probably more then most of the characters. After witnessing a murder and running away with the murderer Ponyboy was a bit more mature about his ways. The whole murder thing had changed him more mentally then it could physically.
2) Johnny had no idea what to do when Ponyboy was being drowned by that Soc so he pulled out his knife, which he would never hurt anyone, but actually killed the Soc which allowed Ponyboy to flee. Johnny changed a lot as well, he killed someone but in defense to his friend Ponyboy.
3) All the police fled to Texas to look for the two juvenile delinquents and it was safe for Dally to go see the boys he did. He went to the church and saw what they had done to both of the hair. They had tried and made over themselves so that if they did go home not many people would notice who they were.
4) When Ponyboy and Johnny had gone to dairy queen with Dally they showed a lot of appreciation towards him because of all what Dally did for the two boys. He had given them money, a gun and a plan.
5) Experiences can change people a lot. An example from the book would be that when Johnny killed the Soc he felt more guilt then he did a victory. Some experiences are good and some are bad, some make you learn when you make the mistake. Most help you through out life, growing up and experiencing the changes of all the privileges and rules you get from your parents.
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